Home Forums Induced Lactation aka Adoptive Breastfeeding Medical Interventions to Induce Lactation/Increase Milk Supply Is Ortho 1/35 the same thing as Ortho Novum 1/35?

So, when you say Ortho 1/35 is that the same thing as the Ortho Novum 1/35? When I do a search for Ortho 1/35 it seems that I could only get that from Canada...so is the name of it in the US Ortho Novum 1/35?

Also, on this website under the breastfeeding topic at the very topic, then under adoptive breastfeeding, then under significant breast changes (or something like that) this is what is there:

These symptoms are indications of adequate growth of the milk making apparatus of the breasts. If the mother does not experience significant breast changes within 15 days of beginning either of the protocols, she may want to consider increasing her progesterone intake.

There are three reliable ways to do this.

-Replace her current birth control pill with Yasmin. This medication has three times the amount of progesterone that is in the "1/35" type birth control pills.
-Replace her current birth control pill with Microgestin. This medication has a third more progesterone than is in the "1/35" type birth control pills.
-Continue on the current "1/35" birth control pill and add at least 1 mg of progesterone another way such as by adding 1/2 a pill of Provera 2.5.

This is sort of confusing. I was under the impression that the new BCP that you were recommending is the Ortho 1/35 which IS a "1/35" BCP that is not recommended above...

Also, if the consensus IS to take the Ortho Novum 1/35 can I still take the Provera 2.5 to add even more progesterone? (I want to do this because I think that not having enough progesterone is what kept me from producing a full supply, due to lack of breastmilk making tissue, the last time.)

Thanks so much for sharing your wisdom!

Peace & Blessings~
Kalli

Hi Kalli,

Thank you for your post. Ortho Novum 1/35 and Ortho 1/35 are essentially the same. It's important to begin with the Ortho and then see how you do before you add anything. You may not need to. Kindly discuss this with your doctor.

Best, Lenore

Thanks for answering my post, Lenore.

When you say essentially...I worry that I might be sacrificing something important. I asked my bestfriend (who is a pharmacist) to look it up for me and this was her reply:


"What I think are the main differences is that Ortho-Novum (which is actually the name of all of them, i.e. Ortho-Novum 1/35, etc...) contains 0.5mg norethindrone (Norethindrone is a synthetic oral progestin) and 0.035mg ethinyl estradiol. Ortho-Novum 1/35 contains 1.0mg norethindrone and 0.035mg ethinyl estradiol. I am not sure about having to buy the 1/35 from Canada. Hope this helps!"


I'm afraid this didn't clear up my questions...

So, is progestin like progesterone?

If so, is having a less quantity going against my idea that I am going to need more progesterone to help build more breastmilk making tissue?

Thank you, so much!

My BF just sent me an article with this info. (and lots more that I don't really understand, unfortunately)


"Okay, Yasmin has this drospirenone whereas the Ortho-Novums have norethindrone."


So, I guess the bottom line is this:

I might be able to get the Ortho 1/35 but it would take great effort since I think I would have to somehow go through Canada to get it.

The Yasmin, easy-peasy, I can get it very easily.

The Ortho-Novum 1/35, I believe that I could also get this very easily.

And, the Necon 1/34 I have not looked into yet.

Which of the above have the potential for the best results?

Anyone?

Kalli I am not sure on the Yasmin. Lenore is the better one to advise on that.

Hi Kalli,

Sorry for the delay, I was out of town without internet access for a couple of days.

Ortho 1/35 with 1 mg norethindrone would be the bcp of choice if you can get your hands on it. Second would be Yasmin. These provide the most consistent results.

Progestin is a form of progesterone. We recommend at least 1/0 mg progesterone and not more than 0.035 mg ethinyl estradiol for the protocols to induce lactation.

Please discuss this with your doctor so you can be monitored and educate at the same time. This is a great way to get the word out.

Best, Lenore